IN THIS EPISODE – Liam Bowler welcomes back Irene Lyon for their second chat on TBA. We pick up largely where we left off from our first interview (ep 17), namely into this question I had — and have — around okay, so we’re aware of this trauma thing … what do we do about it? Wondrous, deep territory. Plus the pitfalls and joys of teaching online (newly on my mind as well).